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Old 03-14-2010
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Mike,

Since I'm trying to keep the mods down to minimum e.g none, plus I haven't seen one to turn my crank yet. I am looking at combos to work with what I got. The question wrt the LR attys, is something that came up during the"woody" review. It's a 3.7V device that delivered like an HV with a 510 LR atty.

I love my stick, but like my direct PT which delivers 5V. My stick was a "morning" device recommended from another site, when I mentioned I needed the hits off a PT in the morning.

The stock 302 atty on the stick may very well be an 801, because that was also mentioned on the review I watched. The B112 performed like a champ during the review, but at the same time it was one of the "reviewer's" favourite atty. Personally I am not fussy on the stock 302 atty and should be able to experiment when my hardware gets here sometime next week.

In all fairness, the stcik's standard atty is developing/breaking in nicely, it's just not my thing. I have similar issues with the 510 attys. I have an L2 for my menthol juice use, it out performs all my other 510 attys and that sucker is at 3.6 Ohms. I am going to be sad when that one goes.

As time goes buy and I have tried different combinations I will undoubtedly will find the sweet spot that Royal refers to. I hav ecome to find out that all things are not equal and that different juices perform better at different voltage. e,g flue cured out of a 510 is a far better vape than on the PT, etc...
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I think I read that when the atty goes bad on a pipe it is finished .

Some of the e-pipes use penstyle attys such as the lady pipe, but some state that other penstyle atty's won't fit the pipe's threads on this 888 pipe model. Still some say that a best e-cig BE112 will fit this lady pipe, while the BE112 is reported to actually be an RN 4072. If so, then all penstyle attys should work on this pipe, as the 4072 is interchageable with 801s and 302s. So go figure.

I also think there is one that as you said, if the atty goes bad, the pipe is done for. But all i know is from what little I have read about them so you can take that with a grain of salt.

It would be cool to use a device in the form of a pipe, but I am not buying any of them if I am stuck with having to use a specific atomizer, or a disposapipe.
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It seems that you fellas have a more refined pallatte than I .I can detect low or no vapor and burnt vapor but the rest is all the same to me.The biggest issue I face is consistancy I would kinda like to know for sure every time I pick it up and puff what I going to get.I guess that is why I spend so much time plugged in with my Kissbox passthrough.I am considering switching from the 302's as my main atty ,as the last several I bought do not seem to wick from carts like the ones I started with.
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Mike,

Until somebody points out what he/she feels, we sometime have difficulty placing a finger on it. Apparently the 302 and 801 are the same atty (don't quote me), and yes I can feel the "wet" Royal refers to with my Stick.

Having said that my large order of parts should be here Mon/Tue, and the "stick" will be run through it's paces, as I do not like the stock atty period, or it could very well be that the 10440 batts drop off to quickly. Mind you used as a PT (which is better), I still do not like that "particular" atty's performance.

I have been hitting my eGo more and more at the PC these days. At 3.7V that baby is out performing my 5V PT. This is with both stock and LS2 attys, mind you the stock attys are better.

I have come to understand that battery performance is as, if not more important than resistance, and the proper combination of atty to device is of paramount importance in order to maximize your vaping experiences. e.g why my 3.6 Ohm atty (Menthol) works like a champ on a stock 510 battery, but not as well on the eGo or the PT, the sweet spot being the stock batt.

Matching liquids with batts/attys: my flue cured juice vapes better on a stock 510 batt and atty. The full flavour can be appreciated with that combination, yet the same juice is hasrh and the flavour lost at 5V, but replace the 2.5 Ohm atty with a 3 - 3.5 atty on the PT and woila! a simiar experience to stock attys and batts.

I never thought it was going to be so complicated but I am having fun experimenting. My former engineering background has enabled me to extrapolate the information. As a previous Control Technician, I like tweaking. I like to get the maximum out of the minimum so to speak.

During this brief journey into vaping, I have also seen folks chase their tail in quest of the ultimate vaping experience, only to find disappointment at the turn of the corner. The grass is not always greener on the other side. New devices hit the street with so much Hoopla and fanfare, that folks rush out to buy the biggest and baddest or shiniest, when sometime the ultimate piece of kit was a long lost friend ferreted away in their stash.

Keep plugging away at it, I am sure you'll find the right combo. I hope this helps.

Edit: I do like the carrying capacity of the 801 carts though
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I agree on the latest fads.I have found that the DSE 801 atty's are good for dripping but the high bridge squeezes all the juice out of a cart and ruins batteries and floods atty's ,there are two different brands of "low bridge "atty' one is Joye and I am not sure who makes the other probably whoever makes the RN models.At the moment I am happier with the DSE 901 with cart as the 510 clones I tried seemed to leak a lot of air when used with an adapter on my 801/Kissbox power gear.I put a .48 ohm resistor on my homeade 5 volt passthrough to make it usable ,brought it down to around 4 volts without load.
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I'd sure wish they would either keep the numbers different, or standardize the buggers as this is getting utterly ridiculous trying to find X. The stick came with a JoyE 302 which I am to understand is an 801 atty, it has a low bridge.
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The Joye 302 and the DSE 801 are the same only in that they are classic pennstyle diameter threads,there is also a RN classic pennstyle model but I don't know the number.Joye and Janty are pretty much the same as Joye builds for Janty and after a time whatever new invention Janty has gets released as a Joye model.This happened with the Janty Dura which we know as the Joye 510 and the Stick,and soon I suppose the Ego.It all boils down to marketing all suppliers want to have an exclusive item to get people to flock to them .Different colors stripes and bowties on the atty's high voltage ,low resistance all marketing.
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