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Old 01-19-2010
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THIS POST IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED. A NUMBER OF THE SITES LISTED BELOW HAVE CHANGED. SOME ARE NOW SELLING AT COMPETITIVE PRICES, HAVE CHANGED THEIR POLICIES, OR HAVE MADE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR BUSINESS PRACTICES AND/OR CLAIMS. IN FAIRNESS TO ALL, I WILL BE REVIEWING THE SITES LISTED AND WILL MAKE THE PROPER CHANGES.

New to the E-cig? Be careful. Here are a few to stay away from.

If you’ve been scammed, let us know at http://www.e-smokers-forum.com

“Free Trial” Should be your first indication. Anything “Free” is not Free. Many reports have come in about delayed shipping, so the trial period ends before the unit can be returned. Agreements in fine print allow the seller to automatically draw on your Credit Card for high priced supplies.

Starter Kits range approximately from $20.00 to $50.00 on average.


Stay away from sites with;
  • False Health Claims (No scientific proof of being healthy)
  • Stating they can be used anywhere. (They can't)
  • Outragiously high prices.
  • False information.
  • Extra fees in small print.
  • Automatic Credit Card withdrawls.
  • Claims of acceptance by the FDA.
  • Claims of being harmless. (Not proven yet)
Do your research. The Forum is full of friendly and helpful people. If you’re not sure, ASK!!!

Sites were revisited, and comments added. All comments are my personal opinion. Jim Davis.
  • Smoking Everywhere [Prices have dropped slightly, but the product is still much higher than many sites. The "Gold" model is priced approximatelt 50% higher than other sites on the web.]
  • Smoke 51 [There has been no price change with this site. Prices are still outragious. The same product can be purchased much cheaper elswhere.]
  • Smoke Assassin. [No changes were found since the first report.]
  • Smoke Assist [Still offering the Free Trial at outragious prices.]
  • Elecktric Blue [Prices are getting more competitive, but the site is still claiming you can use everywhere. Claims of "everywhere" are not true, and should be doubted.]
  • Knight Sticks [Virus alert was received from this site. Knight Sticks is now affiliated with Predo E-Cigs. Recommendation to keep away from Predo also.]
  • Xhale O2 [Prices have gone down, but this site is also selling energy drinks & hooka supplies. I wouldn't bother.]
  • E Cigarettes USA [Prices are still outragiuosly high.]
  • LUX E-cig [Still offering their "Free" trial. Automatic CC withdrawls is in the fine print.(Check the "Lux" thread in the General Dicussions Forum.)]
  • Smokers Saviour [Get the e-cig free when you pay an outragious price for cartridges.]
  • Elektro Cig [now selling No.7 and Green Smoke. Best to keep away from both.]
  • Prado E-Cig [See Knight Sticks above for details.]
  • tryecigarette.com [Blocked on mycomputer as a malware site.]
  • Smoke Star [Still in the "Free Trial" game.]
  • ecigarette-kimree.com [Blocked on my computer as a malware site.]
  • softsmokes.com [Another "Free Trial" site.]
  • Smokers Ally [Still offering the "Free Trial"]
Note; Some sites are no longer active. They have been removed from the list.

Commercials on TV have been appearing lately. I recommend keeping away from these products. The last one I saw was claiming a Free Trial - A $200.00 value. If it's not made of Gold, it's not worth $200.00.

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Glad I got lucky and found Awesome Vapor and ElectroNicStix when I started ,looks like a lot of predators lurking on the web.When you are just thinking about starting it is overwhelming trying to pick which one to start with.Price and all inclusiveness is one of the things that noobies are looking for ,I hated the thought of paying $60.00 for a kit and not having everything I needed when it finally arrived.Arno had a neat little tutorial that helped a lot.
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It's just a shame that most new users run into the scammers before they find the forum.
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I never heard of forums before I started this ,I just googled electronic ciggs,and I had never met anyone who vaped .Sadly paid advertisers get preferential treatment on most search engines that people use.
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I never heard of forums before I started this ,I just googled electronic ciggs,and I had never met anyone who vaped .Sadly paid advertisers get preferential treatment on most search engines that people use.
It is true that ads placed with google, called google adwords do get better placement in search results.

Unfortunately google no longer allows advertizing electronic cigarettes in google adwords.

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I ordered from www.eastmall.net - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd
A friend reccomended that site. Ever heard of
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I ordered from www.eastmall.net - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd
A friend reccomended that site. Ever heard of
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Nothing wrong with EastMall. HeavensGifts and HeathCabin are two other reputable Chinese suppliers as is BestEcig. BestEcig's products tend to be their own clone products though, but in this case much is known about them and folks are happy with their products and excellent support.
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I purchased my bundle kit from Aquavapor.....any bad reviews on this site? I was wondering if I should change distributors?
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I checked them out. $50.00 for a 4081 starter kit is a bit on the high side. It's not a terrible price, but there are cheaper kits out there.

TRUEMAN ECIG Passthrough Pcc DSE905 MOD VG Liquid adapter RN4081 M401 510 DSE801C DSE901C DSE084 DSE901 DSE801 DSE103 - sells them for $27.00, but you have to make a bulk order to make the postage charges pay off.
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I got the bundle....I think I got more acessories than just the starter kit...I don't know...I got the PCC with the bundle....it is what it is. Next time I will have to shop around! And ask more questions before purchasing!
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