well broke my first atty

[stltransporter]

went to pull off the cart and the top half of the atty came out too was surprised how easy it came off too. Looked and saw 2 thin wires going down to a point they connect to the battery.

glad i got home to find my new 510 had arrived which im liking a lot now I am gonna use the leftover stuff from npro as a backup i think now well except for the broken part that is

[PTJD]

Originally Posted by stltransporter

went to pull off the cart and the top half of the atty came out too was surprised how easy it came off too. Looked and saw 2 thin wires going down to a point they connect to the battery.

glad i got home to find my new 510 had arrived which im liking a lot now I am gonna use the leftover stuff from npro as a backup i think now well except for the broken part that is

Well, I just had a 801 spin free after 3 weeks of use. Yep my wires broke when I tried to look at it.
All in all my atties average at least 1 month so a occasional break, I can live with.

[Jim Davis]

The first one is always the hardest.

[Kimster]

Originally Posted by Jim Davis

The first one is always the hardest.

So true, Jim. My first starter kit was the KR-808. All was cool while I was vaping through those prefilled carts that came with it. But when it came time to refill the little suckers on my own with juice, had no clue what I was doing and my tiny 2-page owners manual, poorly translated over from Japanese I'm assuming, was of no help. Needless to say, I had several mouths of nic juice (yup...filled too much and reinserted wrong end up). At some point I damaged the atty and could only get decent vape from dripping. It was pretty frustrating and at that point I hadn't found ESF.
I'm now using and love my 510 manual. I'm using a pretty high level nic juice. I still can't seem to get off the analogs like so many of you seem to be ale to. I'm hopeful and keep trying. I'm grateful for having found this forum and answers to so many questions I had about e-smoking.

[BillyBlack]

I'm now using and love my 510 manual. I'm using a pretty high level nic juice.

What are you using?

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Jim Davis

The first one is always the hardest.

Bonnie Tyler said:

<<The first cut is the deepest>>

Question from a neophyte. Are you abusing atty's or is this a normal occurrence? I'm on a 2 part system with a 510 in the mail. I am not smoke free as I only have 2 batteries I have another coming for that system. Between breaks I'm heading for the garage because I got a battery on charge and the other is blinking <<charge me>>.

The reason why I ask is that I know when I over vape. The carts don't last as long and start tasting like s....

My new kit has a direct passthru "a real direct pass thru" while I am at this keey board, + 4 complete assembled 510s with 2 spares.

I smoked every 15 min or so e.g 4 x/hr. Hence, with a 30 min recommended pause that means 2/3 stciks are required.

I here of folks vaping on what I call "bongs" for 20 up to 45 minutes. It has nothing to do with the battery IMHO, but you are burning out atty's. Isn't this correct??

I am, no I want to quit smoking!! I used to enjoy smoking, when a cigarette use to taste like tobacco. Some of us old "fogies" know what I am talking about. Now analogs taste like s... and have been for quite some time.

I enjoyed smoking, now I have to smoke, because I have to. I no longer enjoy smoking anymore. Once upon a time tobacco was not as addictive as it is now! The BT Coy have ensured that it is. With the added 4K chemicals, no wonder our bodies are so FUBAR.

I, like Jim prefer to go back to, or stick with tobacco flavours, for a reason.

I want to quit and my wife supports it. She is a non-smoker and very supportive. She is also a very well versed individual. With all the hooplah surrounding e-cigs, I was doing e-cigs on the side (read sneaking them). We have oppenly discussed this and she is cool with the switch. I am supported. However, like most I went with the look alikes, big mistake! My 510s are anything like look alikes. I will not be smoking my look alikes infront of the children. Nicotine addiction, is nicotine addiction regardless which way you want to cut it.

From a pack/day Cdn (read 25) down to 5 or 6 analogs I am on the right track.

It is not what you are still consuming that is important, it is what you are not. My morning and after meals cigs are Xtremely important, both in the physiological and psychological sense. I am/was also a premium cigar smoker. So I have some Cuban cigar juice coming (for an evening stogie with a cognac, glass of wine etc...) to replace after dinner analog. I have a cappuccino flavour coming for the morning cig. BTW I am currently at 16gm, these analog replacement I intend to be 24gm+, and then reduce. Until satisfied.

I don't want to smoke tuity fruity!! Although I have no objection to those who do.

We were out to dinner tonight. It took a while to arrive and I needed to use the mens room. I decided to throne this one, and puff away. No one notice with the exception of my wife. BTW she only found out about my new habit hours ago.

Vaping is definitely an alternate lifestyle and I am cool with that. I believe this is an avenue for me to finally quit. The day I am done vaping, I know I will fall off the wagon. The thing that re-assures me and the missus, I will have evrything available to satisfy my "psycological trigger/failure", with a "'0" nicotine hit. Isn't that what we are trying to achive??

I embrace this technology, but as a parent with 2 teen agers (thank god they don't smoke) I am concerned with where this is heading...

I do not like what the WHO, FDA and HC are doing neither, but I must admit, in all honesty, supporting their concerns, this an unregulated smoking cessation program that IMHO needs to be addressed wisely for the good of us all.

I am not trying to preach, I speak from the heart...

[lordmage]

Rick
i tend to think it is an alternative. rather then a quit aid. as per the FDA,HC,WHO look at all the approve aids there are out there, and the failure rate of them considering they are a regulated products. tells me they are more interested in long term money, then a short term solution. in truth i still vape but have not had a smoke in 13 months +/- a few weeks. outside of a test analog that was it. so for me it is an alternative.

Things to think that may help your chosen goal.
1. think of it less like a fake. treat it as you would a smoke. dont over do it in terms of how long you vape.

2.depending on things you may need a slightly higher nic to cut out the analogs completely then slowly step down to 0 nic over time.

3. each person taste and use are subjective to that person.

i highly suggest juice from www.AVEjuice.com there flavors are great.
tobacco blends you may like :
Bobo is a mix of 5 flavors or more comes out strong and i love it.
Gamel just about has you would expect smooth with a good kick IMO.
Marly reminds me of a winston.
they also have a havan of sorts and others that i have not tried.

i will say this out of the 5 flavors i have i like every one. they are all VG based juices and all are excellent.

[Rick]

Mage,

I am not arguing with anyone here, and support your point of view. I just signed off another forum for good. Heck trying to read 500 new post (posted in 30 minutes)??? A lot of drivel. Christ no wonder people are burning out attys

The point I wad trying to make across many post is we are under attack from our collective governments!

In Canada, the ban is the uncontrolled use of nicotine. Now, I'm not saying it should be controlled, far from it. But at the same time I see folks vaping uncontrollably.?? When was the last time anyone sucked on a fag for 45 miuntes?? Catch my drift??? Let alone 24mg + juice, some are bragging about 36mg + juice. Do you see where I am going with this. Are they vaping resposibly in all honesty????

Christ we are going to extreme, not limited to 6 volts with dble attys to get a fix????? Let's just stick a needle in our arm!

Having voiced these concerns, do you see how an outsider (the non smoking populus) view us??????

The question was/is are we out of control??????? I've started vaping as a safer alternative to smoking, with the eventual intention of kicking the habit that was INDUCED in us. I don't know when I will be nicotine free, at this time. But I know some day I will, in the not too distant future.

The question remains are WE out of control? Passive use of an alternate method of nicotine ingestion is one thing, to "Bong" nicotine is another.

In closing are we helping our cause or helping the enemy, think about it?

Edit: BTW I am fully cognisant of the money trail!

[lordmage]

well i certainly can't argue with that. in fact i can agree with most of that quite well. i personally have tried many voltages (3.7,5,7 even 7,7.5) and many levels of juice (36+,36,24,18,12,7,0) as well as many different types of attys (901,510,306,801,4075,401) and many different device lines (janty,puresmoker,smokeeverywhere,generics). i can say with relative certainty that for ME i like 5v on a BB battery mod from altsmoke.com with 24mg VG juice currently from avejuice. i even went 6 months no vaping at all just to test the addictive level to my body. i can go without nic i just have not found a 0 nic i liked yet. maybe ill try these current juice in lower nic next time. i also tend to still think of my vaping like a analog. i just have a bit more freedom where i can vape now. i still go outside at work when i need to and else where.

[Rick]

I'm glad I was able to convey my thoughts in a clear fashion, as I was rather a little "testy" last night and was worried a little how i was coming across.

I quit the site that has over 700K mbrs, because your questions get lost in the magnitude of hourly post, it's impossible to catch up let alone stay current. There was a lot of drivel to navigate through just to get to an interesting/informative post.

I haven't been on the forums for long, but during this short period, my observations from the past week where: one has to have the biggest, baddest, meanest vapour delivery stick on the block. Mind you this is not different than other things in society.

Because I am relatively new to vaping I believe I was able ro provide an untainted opinion wrt vaping, or what is perceived out there. If I feel that way, imagine what the non-smoking populus feels, especially those who are reading these forums with nothing better to do than shut us down.

I see nothing wrong with vaping regardless of the device used to achieve an honest smoking experience, if that is what one wants, to remain smoke free. I'm cool with that. But to sit and sallivate awaiting the next generations of "hookahs" or super duper you can't bend her model, leaves areas for concerns, because from what I have observed to date, this affliction is wide spread, and hence providing ammunition to the enemy.

Back to the original question...

Are we burning out attys because of abuse or is it the norm? I know the answer. Some are better than others, even in the same model. I have read some folks can get months out of the same atty, whilst others merely weeks, sometime days.