well broke my first atty

[stltransporter]

As the OP i want to say the atty did not burn it broke in half at the seam when i tried to remove the cart.

[Rick]

Hence, my original (but long winded) question. Is this the norm to be expected? Is it customer based failure, mfr of sub-standard equipment/knock offs etc...

These answers are important to me, in order to properly evaluate my future needs. e.g ordering what was recommended + 20% didn't see me thru to the 2nd shipment. Result, analogs until shipment arrives. Now I am much much wiser... educated on these forums. I want to go smoke free, in order to do that, I need to have enough equipment/juice so I don't get my nic fix some place else. Being from Canada, it has not been easy. Now that I have reliable sources for product I should be fine with what is coming in the next couple of weeks, to weane we off completly from analogs

[mcquinn]

I don't know how often you order ,I get paid every other week so I have to order at least three 15 ml bottles of liquid and I try to keep four or five attomisers on hand to allow for cleaning .I have had pretty good luck with my stuff I use the low bridge pennstyles and I have two of the DSE 510 clones and three of the DSE 901's I can't really say how long an atty lasts me as I switch off when I switch flavors ,the flavor gets bad or the vapor production drops off.I will say my first Joye 302 atty lasted me over six months before I carboned it up with some really tasty but apparently hard on atty juice.

[Royal]

stl,
The chances of this happening is slim. As with any product, their is bound to be a bad apple in the bunch from time to time. Just one thing to keep in mind, when removing or replacing a cart pull straight up or push straight down and don't twist. With some atty designs it is also wise to align the cart up with the atty bridge.

Rick,
There are so many factors to consider when people report premature atty failure. Is this person a newbie? Did he or she hit it dry? Are they perhaps using too high a voltage? And also some flavors can also reduce the life of an atty. I have been using e-cigs for a year now, and I have only killed a couple of attys in that time, both were my fault by hitting them with too much voltage.

I buy new attys all the time, but that is not because I killed them all, it is because for $10.00 or less, sometimes I feel that it is of little expense to just pop a new one on, than to clean them and then spend time bringing them back to life so that they start wicking properly again. Still I get several weeks of like new use out of an atty, before I start noticing any reduction in production. I consider this as being very cost effective, when compared to the price of cigarettes.
I have also discovered, at least for me, my attys tend to perform like new longer at or near 5 volts. Perhaps it is the increased heat that is keeping the atty from gunking up as fast. Kind of like a self cleaning oven. I have found that any voltage higher than 5 volts on a 510 or a penstyle will greatly reduce the life of the atty, as this is what killed the couple that I did in.
And since I have been using DIY e-lquid, I am getting even more like new performance, I suppose this has to do with what I am using in my mix, or rather what I am not using. I don't like a really strong over powering flavor, so I use only a minimal amounts of flavoring to achieve my desired taste.

As far as reducing to no-nic. I will say that when I started I was already trying to quit analogs. So I started with no-nic, and found that it was enough to get me through all my cravings. I have since bounced back and forth from niquid to no-nic with no adverse withdrawal symptoms. I have for myself come to the conclusion that nicotine in itself when taken in via an e-cig, is not as addictive as conventional cigarettes/analogs.
Could this be because of all the other junk that is in analogs are making them more addictive? If so, has big tobacco done this on purpose?

[Jim Davis]

Royal;

I'm just the oppisite as you. I use a single atty until it bites the big one. I've ponly used a couple of them in the past year, and my vaping is still enjoyable.

If you're changing attys regulerly, I hope you're saving the old ones, at least until this FDA Circus is finished.

[Royal]

I still have all of them, including the couple I killed.

If I had to I could still be using the very old ones, I just like a brand new one from time to time. Like buying a new pair of shoes.

[Rick]

I have for myself come to the conclusion that nicotine in itself when taken in via an e-cig, is not as addictive as conventional cigarettes/analogs.
Could this be because of all the other junk that is in analogs are making them more addictive? If so, has big tobacco done this on purpose?

I am glad you brought that up, I will start another thread wrt your pt so as to not hijack this one.

What you have surmised Royal is pretty much what I had extrapolated with everything I have read to date.

[Jim Davis]

Rick;

To help with your atty question, This is the first time I've heard of an atty physically coming apart during use. I would consider this a very rare occurance. Not impossible, but rare. Most attys fail due to the coil burning out, and that can be due to dozens of reasons.

[Rick]

To sum it up Jim, your reply was pretty much what I had concluded. The problem is not as bad with auto batteries though, for the already stated reasons of overcooking them. Some folks actually cook 'em to dry them out after cleaning?? I believe there are better methods that I have read.

[Jim Davis]

i still swear by the Everclear Bath. It's never fsiled me yet.