My New Joye 510

[BillyBlack]

Originally Posted by smokum

Nope....... nothing wrong with you at all !!

Just wait till the addiction bites that makes you want to order all kinds of expensive mods for simple WANT...

I want to ask you... did your kit come with charging instructions regarding your initial charge ??

Unless things have changed with the Joye510 batts right out of the box (meaning, that the seller has precharged them for you), I've always followed the instructions which stated to "initial" charge them for 6-8 hrs regardless of l.e.d. indicators on the charger.

This has always worked well for me with not having any battery "short life" issues.

Just thought I'd mention it if you were unaware of the norm.

VapeOn,
Greg

That's a tough one. All Li-ions are partially charged from the manufacturer when shipped (not fully) as that's the nature of the technology. It's hard to say exactly how all e-cig chargers work, but Li-ions are not to be trickle charged once the proper 4.2V upper limit is reached (for 3.7V batteries).

It's also important to be careful when trying to use different chargers for various e-cig batts. A good example is the 'charger' supplied with the popular disposable 510 kits floating around. It's not really a charger (which would denote some sort of circuit to determine when to stop), it's just a power supply and even though standard Joye batts fit, it will destroy them if left on too long. It would appear the disposable batts themselves contain the shut off circuit. I believe M401 batts function the same way.

The same can be said for cell phone 'chargers', they aren't chargers, they are simply power supplies that supply power to the charger inside the phone.

[Royal]

Originally Posted by BillyBlack

That's a tough one. All Li-ions are partially charged from the manufacturer when shipped (not fully) as that's the nature of the technology. It's hard to say exactly how all e-cig chargers work, but Li-ions are not to be trickle charged once the proper 4.2V upper limit is reached (for 3.7V batteries).

It's also important to be careful when trying to use different chargers for various e-cig batts. A good example is the 'charger' supplied with the popular disposable 510 kits floating around. It's not really a charger (which would denote some sort of circuit to determine when to stop), it's just a power supply and even though standard Joye batts fit, it will destroy them if left on too long. It would appear the disposable batts themselves contain the shut off circuit. I believe M401 batts function the same way.

The same can be said for cell phone 'chargers', they aren't chargers, they are simply power supplies that supply power to the charger inside the phone.

Actually the protection circuit for these batteries is inside the battery itself. It is called a PCM (protection circuit module). If you have ever taken one apart or took the little plastic end cap off, you will see a tiny round shaped PCB. This is the protection circuit module. It protects the battery from over charging, over dishcharging, or from running at more than the predetermined amperage. Most of these found inside e-cig batteries even have a little LED attached on the PCB.

As far as leaving them on a charger for too long, I leave mine on some times for days at a time, and these batteries I have had for going on a year now. They still work as good as new. But if the PCM ever goes out, this is when problems can and will occur. Which is why they recommend never leaving them unattended while charging.

Still I would agree that the safest way to charge these e-cig batteries, would be with a PCM protected charger. That way, if one PCM fails, there is still the second as a failsafe.

My only suggestion for e-smokers is to plug your charger in to a GFCI protected outlet, and place it on a fire proof surface, and never leave them unattended as I so often do.

[Kimster]

You're gonna love the Rath mocha mint juice. I'm also a happy owner of the 510. I started with the KR-808 but found the auto cutoff left me with nic juice on my lips after drawing too long and hard. With the 808 I also found filling the tiny little carts with juice incredibly tedious and messy. My 510 feels like a monster vapor compared to my 808 and of course lasts much longer since the carts are larger. One advantage of my litle 808 though is it looks and feels like a real analogue, much more so than the black 510 with a button I have to push....still haven't worked out how to hold the 510 the way I would an analog. I'm envious and marveling at all my fellow forum e-smokers who went from a pack-a-day to vaping only. I'm still on the analogs and vaping in between the stinkies. Anyone out there who is also finding it difficult to get off the analogs completely, I'd love to hear from you.

[BillyBlack]

I'm envious and marveling at all my fellow forum e-smokers who went from a pack-a-day to vaping only. I'm still on the analogs and vaping in between the stinkies.

What nic level you at?

[mcquinn]

I did both for the fist couple of months.Usually only two or three analogs a day they just got less desirable as time wore on.Every so often when I smell one burning I kinda wonder if I should try just one for old times .But I get over it in a few minutes.

[Jim Davis]

Originally Posted by Kimster

still haven't worked out how to hold the 510 the way I would an analog.

I see a problem here. You're treating your e-cigs like analogs. Try to break free from that habit. Concentrate on the vapor & hit. Think about getting a battery mod that's nowhere near a stinkie stick. Put the stinkies out of your mind. Get away from any tobacco flavors if possible.

If you crave an analog, try spiking on some higher nic juice, and then go back to your regular.