Any thoughts?

[hobomike]

Vape-Or-Smoke Pipe - Portable Vaporizer and Smoking Pipe

Anyone tried this or anything like this? I'm not sure what the atomizer is make of or stuffed with, but it seems interesting for a non electric alternative.

[Royal]

It does not use an atomizer, it uses a butane torch to heat a bowl filled with a combustable substance.

[Jim Davis]

That kills the idea of the electronic cigarette. If you use one of those, you're back to smoking.

[smokum]

Yes & No... it can vape leaf tobacco fairly well but the slightest misjudgement and it combusts. AND, the vaped tobacco tastes horrible, lol.

But this is NOT e-cig related and is designed for illegal substances.

[Royal]

Originally Posted by smokum

But this is NOT e-cig related and is designed for illegal substances.

Exactly. Which is why I removed the hyperlink and have closed this thread.

Edit: I have reopened this thread out of respect to the OP.

Apparently this particular device has an adaptor to allow the use of e-cigarette e-liquid. Apparently you can fill this bowl, (and I call it a bowl because that is what it is, and is not an atomizer as we define one,) which looks like it is stuffed with a wire mesh. The device will then heat the bowl of e-liquid by use of the butane torch in order to allow you to use it as a legitimate vaping device. Here is the link to this adaptor (not the device itself). http://vapeorsmoke.com/atomizer/
This website states that it heats the e-liquid by means of hot air generated from the butane torch, but to start with a low flame and then increase it as needed. To put it simply, the torch heats a bowl/chamber which is more like an oven than anything else.

This is something I would never consider using as a vaping alternative. Here's why, the chemical compounds used in our e-liquids, can break down in to dangerous forms if it is heated beyond a certain point. I am speaking of most notably VG, (vegetable glycerin). Overheating VG runs the risk of it breaking down in to acrolien. As we have learned in the past, an electronic cigarette atomizer does not typically ever get hot enough for this breakdown to occur, and is another reason why the manufacturers placed cutoffs on our devices. It is with this and other reasons in mind, that I do not see using any such device as mentioned by the OP as a substitue for an electronic cigarette. Another reason is, these types of devices are most commonly used and are recognized by law enforcement as drug delivery devices. I would hate to get pulled over and go through hours of questioning and waiting for them to test the contents of my device.

And until studies are published or shown to me that the working temperatures of such devices do not reach the critical point of decomposition which can create toxic gases such as acrolein, I for one, am not going to be someone's guinae pig.

[hobomike]

Thank you kind sir. And a public apology for my private heated indiscretion.

Say that you forgo VG, and use strictly PG. Have there been any problems in the past with the overheating of this?

And i hate to say it, but cops aren't as well informed as you'd think. I've been pulled over and questioned for 45 minutes regarding my e-cig. Had to show them multiple websites and let a frigging dog sniff it.

[lordmage]

some people have been known to have PG sensitivity as per Police education that can't be helped....

[Royal]

Originally Posted by hobomike

And i hate to say it, but cops aren't as well informed as you'd think. I've been pulled over and questioned for 45 minutes regarding my e-cig. Had to show them multiple websites and let a frigging dog sniff it.

This sound like the officer who questioned you had been informed, just not to the degree of our liking. You see, the term vaping has been most notably used in terms of illegal drug use. And anytime something of this nature is presented to law enforcement it is naturally going to throw up a red flag.

Until the day comes that e-cigs are as common as analogs, we will have to be on guard to suspicions, and always ready to give insight about the device.

Even though I make my own e-liquid, I always carry it in a commercial e-liquid bottle complete with label, or a bottle with a properly printed label that includes the ingredients. This way I can readily show them what it uses, and the label clearly states what it is and has in it.

I am familiar with many of my local law enforcement officers. Of the ones I am on first name basis with, are very knowledgable with the e-cig, and a couple of them are even e-cig users.
As I have been lead to understand, such devices are commonly discussed during daily and weekly briefings.