A little help for starters

[Royal]

Well good news on the SE vs. the FDA case, so we can all breathe a little easier for now. At least for the time being, not have to go underground.

[Jim Davis]

Originally Posted by BobbieV

Trust me Iv been around a few crack addicts in my time you sound a lot like one

I *feel* like one. I have all my juice mixing supplies, syringes, bottles, and assorted chemicals all neatly placed on a storage stand in the bedroom.

When I'm on the road, and get down to 1/2 bottle of juice, I start to get nervious.

[mcquinn]

I wish it was that simple ,big brother has other departments ,enjoy it while you can.

[venus12277]

Im VERY NEW to e cigs can you use just the veg glycerin to vap with or does it have to be cut, I am trying to go Nic free I have a "Health E Cig" I got at the local Tabaco store the cartriges are running out on me faster than I expected, and I wanted to try and refil those cartriges but didnt wanna spend alot in case I couldnt... Any help or info on this brand of e cigs would be helpfull.. Thanks all!

Missie

[mcquinn]

Yes you can vape straight glycerin and it is actually kind of tasty.It might be a little on the thick side ,some thin it with distilled water or Everclear or Vodka .I like to vape straight glycerin on days when the sun is shining through the windows and the sunbeams dance around in the huge clouds of vapor.Awesome Vapor has pretty good prices on no nic liquids and they give you a free 3 ml sample of any flavor you want to try .The samples are 18 mg and make good safety nets for the times when you just need some nic.Or if you get the same flavor as your no nic you can add a little just for peace of mind.

[Trulee]

Please tell me if I'm wrong,,, but it seems you can pretty much make up your own juice. I did read a 80 to 20 ratio, but I cant remember if its 80 vg to 20 pg or the other way around. Does it matter?

[Trulee]

And how much distilled water? Lorrane flavorings sound GREAT gotta love the price too !

[mcquinn]

yes you can make your own here is a thread DIY E-Liquid Recipes - e-Smokers-forum.com · e-Cigarette and e-Smoking discussions of recipes.I tried it and no more than prenade cost I decided it was not worth the effort.

[Trulee]

Originally Posted by mcquinn

yes you can make your own here is a thread DIY E-Liquid Recipes - e-Smokers-forum.com · e-Cigarette and e-Smoking discussions of recipes.I tried it and no more than prenade cost I decided it was not worth the effort.

Well .... by my calculations it's much cheaper to make your own. I've ordered a 60ml bottle of 48mg unflavored nicotine for about 12 bucks + 6 shipping so around 18 buckaroos and cut it by two or three....wow. I could easily end up with a 16mg nic strength in a 180ml bottle for only 18 bucks. Lorann flavors are around a dollar a bottle and the vg was around 3 bucks for a fairly large bottle. Even the ejuice flavors at PA are not high. Wholly cow,,, I'm gonna save so much mooolaaa

[Royal]

Making your own and developing a recipe for a taste and consistency to ones liking takes some time and trials.
Over time and many a bad batch, I learned that for me at least, it requires more than just a single flavor or additive.

Here is what I do, I use a 50/50 mix of PG/VG. I use two different real commercial grade tobacco flavorings, three different lorannoils flavorings and to adjust the PH and viscosity, I add 16 drops of a grain alcohol(190 proof everclear)/citric acid solution per every 30ml of mix. (I do not use any water in my mix.)
I mix my powdered citric acid in a 15 ml bottle, adding about 20 percent citric acid then topping off with grain alcohol. Then just cap the bottle and shake it until all the citric acid has been dissolved.

My result is a mild satisfying flavor that is as close to the taste of a real cigarette as I have ever come across. The consistency wicks very well and also produces tons of vapor for my visual satisfaction, and a good throat hit. I also find that my peronal blend has very little coloring to it, and my atomizers last a long time as it vapes much more cleaner than most or all the store bought flavored e-liquids I have tried.

For so long as I can buy unflavored high octane nicquid in bulk, I will never buy a store bought mix again. But I have enough on hand to last me at least two years, maybe longer.

Just be very careful in handling the high octane stuff and be sure to wear Personal protective equipment. And always remember to keep you supplies refrigerated and out of the sunlight or exposed to air.

Oh, and my cost to make my own comes out to around $1.00 per ounce at 15 mg/ml. 1 ounce lasts me about 10 days, so that comes out to only 10 cents per day. How's that for savings?