Utah Restricts sale of e-cigs

[Royal]

SALT LAKE CITY — A bill that restricts the sale of electronic cigarettes was approved unanimously in the House Friday

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Utah Legislature: Unanimous House OKs bill restricting sale of e-cigarettes | Deseret News

[Rick]

... and that is my concern as well. (tuity fruity flavours)

I will be engaging the family (the children) as this is what is ahead... sucking on a metal stick in cure of an addiction, not as an alternative means to smoking.

I believe if we are going to win our rights to cure ourselves we need to be extremely diligent and not so openly flippant in the way we do so. Isn't that what this is all about? I had a fix tonight, out of sight in a public washroom!

IMRHO, we need to de-sextisize vaping for the lack of a better word, and respond to concerns with direct rebuttals. The problem in Canada right now is not e-cig, but the unregulated use of nicotine which is a "controlled" substance both under the FDA and HC. Mind you, in the US they have merely passed the buck to the TI. (politics)

In Canada, we are allowed to vape all we want provided we don't vape nicotine. Hum!

Folks! I think it is time to fall back and reload. Think about it!!

[Royal]

To proclaim it as a smoking cessation device would open the door to regulate them as a drug. I feel we are better off only considering them as a smoking alternative.
The lesser or the two evils would be to have them regulated as a tobacco product. As some form of regulation is inevitable with todays politics.

The future of e-cigs in the U.S. will most likely be determined in the SE v. the FDA appealant court. Then either an outright ban will occur unless or until the FDA deems them as safe, else if they are considered a tobacco product, then surely we will at least be hit with high taxes like what is impossed already on tobacco products.

There are many different views on this subject. Some think we ought to call it vaping and distance ourselves from any mention of smoking. This to me is a misnomer. As the term vape or vaping is widely used these days as a popular method of using illegal drugs. Therefore vape or vaping is also considered a drug term.
The terminology e-cigarette or e-smoking is more in line with tobacco use and though any mention of smoking is taboo in todays world of PC, it is not illegal, and IMHO would better be suited to keep e-cigs legal under tobacco regulation, than to be banned as a drug delivery device.

In order for the FDA to regulate tobacco, it had to be declared and defined as safe in order for it to fall under FDA regulation as it did. This is why tobacco has never fallen under FDA regulation before, because we all know the harms and dangers of tobacco use.

Now the FDA and anti-smoking advocates are protecting big tobacco, by trying to quash e-cigs. IMO, it is all about the money and has nothing really to do with public health concerns.

[Jim Davis]

The Salt Lake City decision doesn't suprise me in the least.

I worked a Service Call at a printing plant in SLC. About 10:00am, I told the foreman that I could go for a cup of coffee. He laughed.

Caffine is banned on the property as well as tobacco products. I had to go to a Burger King a block away and drink my coffee there.

I have only one question. Why are some of these people trying to save me?

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Royal

To proclaim it as a smoking cessation device would open the door to regulate them as a drug. I feel we are better off only considering them as a smoking alternative.

... understood and supported

The lesser or the two evils would be to have them regulated as a tobacco product. As some form of regulation is inevitable with todays politics.

... then wouldn't that make 'em taxable at the same rate as "tobacco" products. IMO it's a no win situation, just more money for the government.

The future of e-cigs in the U.S. will most likely be determined in the SE v. the FDA appealant court. Then either an outright ban will occur unless or until the FDA deems them as safe, else if they are considered a tobacco product, then surely we will at least be hit with high taxes like what is imposed already on tobacco products.

previously addressed

There are many different views on this subject. Some think we ought to call it vaping and distance ourselves from any mention of smoking. This to me is a misnomer. As the term vape or vaping is widely used these days as a popular method of using illegal drugs. Therefore vape or vaping is also considered a drug term.
The terminology e-cigarette or e-smoking is more in line with tobacco use and though any mention of smoking is taboo in todays world of PC, it is not illegal, and IMHO would better be suited to keep e-cigs legal under tobacco regulation, than to be banned as a drug delivery device.

no argument here

Now the FDA and anti-smoking advocates are protecting big tobacco, by trying to quash e-cigs. IMO, it is all about the money and has nothing really to do with public health concerns.

Exactly they all fall under the umbrella of the PE