Philip Morriss Negotiates with Ruyan

[Royal]

Jim, you sound like me.

[mcquinn]

I know some people in the woods of Washington state that could give you guys some pointers.Just kidding kinda. Isn't there a shelf life on E-Juice?

[mcquinn]

I just had a vision.Remember in Waterworld ,the smokers on the tanker ?Only in my vision it was Davis on a tanker of E-Juice.Or maybe Bartertown with stockpiles of atty's and the little guy making E-Juice.

[Royal]

Originally Posted by mcquinn

I know some people in the woods of Washington state that could give you guys some pointers.Just kidding kinda. Isn't there a shelf life on E-Juice?

ha ha, very funny.

PG is a preservative, some bottles state 2 years shelf life, some state nothing. For long term storage keep refrigerated and out of the light. Light kills the nicotine. This is why JC uses brown glass bottles.

1,000 millitres at say 3 mils per day equals 333 days, that's well within any expected shelf life that I am aware of.

[mcquinn]

I thought I read that it is subject to oxidation.You guys are aparently getting something I don't seem to be getting .While I find it an acceptable alternative to smoking for knocking back the nicfits.I have never found a real pleasant brand or flavor of e-liquid that I would say I really look forward to or cannot live without.

[Royal]

Yes, you are right, nicotine will degrade if left exposed to air. I just felt it unnecessary to elaborate on this as I haven't known anyone to leave their nic-quid sitting around uncapped.

I think the biggest mistake people make is to look for e-Smoking to be the same as smoking, when it is not and never will be.
IMHO, the quest to find a vapored flavor that tastes and feels just like smoke is in part a reluctance to give up the stinkies, whether we realize it or not.
Smoking has been such a major part of our lives, it is often very hard to set aside what has comforted us in so many ways, even if replaced with something that meets most or all we require.

For you to say that you have not found a flavor that you look forward to, or cannot live without is a good thing.
We can all live without them, and I can safely say, be better off without them.

I can say that I continue to use the E-Cig not because I have to, as I no longer have nicotine cravings, but because I want to, for the enjoyment of the flavors and overall vape experience.

[lordmage]

for me the flavor of the vape and hit is what i like. most of the vanillas out there fit me just fine in on or other respect but not both so i mix them and use it that way.

[Royal]

I once tried a prefilled cart that came with a 510 kit, it was marked as MB
and it had the most amazing taste, it was awesome. I have since not been able to find that flavor again. None of the other carts tasted the same. I have tried the Mbro, MB, MLB, Marlbro and none are the same as that cart.

[mcquinn]

I have had that happen twice ,once it was tobacco flavor high nic but the liquid they sold that was supposed to be what was in the carts wasn't even close,and the other time it was MLB and the liquid that was supposed to be it I couldn't even taste.I wonder if they get stronger tasting sitting around in warehouses prefilled.The little plastic bag and rubber caps are for sure not airtight.Most of the prefilled were dried out and required filling before use.They had a kind of ginger taste to me but not gingerbread man taste maybe nutmeg.The search continues.I am trying the fruity ones now peach and strawberry are not too bad got them off of Jason's closeout of 24 mg.

[lordmage]

i am always in the search for the perfect vanilla tobacco flavor. i get close my mixing like three suppliers juices just not quite up there yet. need to get the final version and make a huge batch.